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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2007, 07:14:31 AM »

I think it is coming to the time for substituting the ECU ! the spark intensity is directly related to the speed that the coil primary current is switched off.
If the semiconductors in the ECU that control this have become leaky or aren't switching fast enough it will result in a weak spark.
It will be a bit ominous for everyone if this has occurred due to age though because I get the impression that the ECU is a pretty reliable piece of gear, unlike most of the other electronic systems on these cars.
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2007, 12:03:41 PM »

I think it is coming to the time for substituting the ECU ! the spark intensity is directly related to the speed that the coil primary current is switched off.
If the semiconductors in the ECU that control this have become leaky or aren't switching fast enough it will result in a weak spark.
It will be a bit ominous for everyone if this has occurred due to age though because I get the impression that the ECU is a pretty reliable piece of gear, unlike most of the other electronic systems on these cars.
i think you maybe right. problem is finding one local. i know there is one on ebay.
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2007, 01:17:30 PM »

remember the ecu is well protected behind a kick pannel so unless you have a leak and its got wet  Roll Eyes it might NOT be that .or might be ...who knows  Undecided
 but the ecu and all other engine management components are connected together with looms ,
some engine flexing/movement over time could case harden(weaken ) these looms and cause an open circuit.
only way to know is to meter the looms out and that could take a while  Roll Eyes
hope this helps
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2007, 02:00:57 PM »

remember the ecu is well protected behind a kick pannel so unless you have a leak and its got wet  Roll Eyes it might NOT be that .or might be ...who knows  Undecided
 but the ecu and all other engine management components are connected together with looms ,
some engine flexing/movement over time could case harden(weaken ) these looms and cause an open circuit.
only way to know is to meter the looms out and that could take a while  Roll Eyes
hope this helps
bernard is popping over later, he has a plan..................
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2007, 05:48:51 PM »

One thing I thought of....the ECU gets its earth for the coil switching output stage from a specific point (it's not a general earth). Its one of the three brown wires that are earthed at the rear of the intake manifold bridge. Check these, if they're high resistance you'll get a low coil voltage. Also these three connections ultimately get they're earth from the engine main earthing braid. Check this.
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2007, 06:10:11 PM »

One thing I thought of....the ECU gets its earth for the coil switching output stage from a specific point (it's not a general earth). Its one of the three brown wires that are earthed at the rear of the intake manifold bridge. Check these, if they're high resistance you'll get a low coil voltage. Also these three connections ultimately get they're earth from the engine main earthing braid. Check this.
Will do and good thinking. Bernard is popping over tomorrow, we will see what comes of it.
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2007, 06:17:47 PM »

Top man that Bernard chap Wink
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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2007, 06:31:06 PM »

Does the car turm over?

Does the car turn over quicker than normal?
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2007, 08:14:25 PM »

Does the car turm over?

Does the car turn over quicker than normal?
nah, i know what your thinking and the chains are good Wink
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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2007, 09:35:42 PM »

I think Mr, GMC is thinking of the dreaded "borewash" syndrome.

Nasty business.............
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« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2007, 09:19:48 PM »

I think Mr, GMC is thinking of the dreaded "borewash" syndrome.

Nasty business.............
scatmancraig sorted me out with an ecu and a dizzy Wink

 it was the ecu ! sorted Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2007, 09:31:20 PM »

who wants to look at my poor starting 12v ?  Wink
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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2007, 09:32:52 PM »

who wants to look at my poor starting 12v ?  Wink
symptoms??
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« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2007, 09:35:17 PM »

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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2007, 08:00:57 AM »

This is a really long shot, but that sounds like the fuel vapourising, same as the old Rover V8's used to do.
Are any of your fuel supply lines close to the exhaust manifold?
Try re-routing the fuel lines.
Like I said, it's a long shot.
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« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2007, 08:24:53 AM »

This is a really long shot, but that sounds like the fuel vapourising, same as the old Rover V8's used to do.
Are any of your fuel supply lines close to the exhaust manifold?
Try re-routing the fuel lines.
Like I said, it's a long shot.

My brother's SD1 used to do that, especially when it was getting low on petrol.

Had to pour petrol down the Strombergs! Grin
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« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2007, 10:08:25 AM »

I think Mr, GMC is thinking of the dreaded "borewash" syndrome.

Nasty business.............
scatmancraig sorted me out with an ecu and a dizzy Wink

 it was the ecu ! sorted Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Only happy to help!  At least you got a spare dizzy now too!!
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« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2007, 11:40:31 PM »

Great news Jim, Glad to hear it. Smiley Smiley Wink Wink
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« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2007, 02:05:43 PM »

many thanks bernard... Grin
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