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« on: July 12, 2006, 11:01:15 PM » |
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Hi all, Can anyone help..... where will i get a new sensor? my local VX dealer just laughed at me today!!   and most motor factors don't do them!! Any ideas..or does anyone have a spare one or a good second hand one they are willing to exchange for some beer tokens!!?? Cheers |
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Dave the Builder
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 11:14:11 PM » |
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Are you sure your crank sensor is dead ?
if you are getting error 65 fault code on motronic the crank sensor will not send a signal unless the engine is running.
I had this problem,till mark pointed out to me that it will flash as a fualt unless you run engine during test,i don't think the engine runs without the sensor working because it sends a signal for No1 tdc for the ignition timing.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 11:23:24 PM » |
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AHA!! Thats a point!! I was getting... fault codes of... 15...coolant sensor 31...Crankshaft..no signal!  81...low voltage at no1 injector now i reset it with the ignition on and off 25 times and then disconnect the battery for a minute...... then i only got 12 and 31...but your right it was not running but its still in limp home mode Temp gauge wasn't working,felt it was running a bit hot......ECU light came on when sitting at traffic lights and it chucked it........(removed the stat as temporary fix) Sat for 10 mins.....tried it,started fine no light...got it to my garage switched it off,changed the temp gauge switch and removed the stat....been in limp home and light on ever since...will the coolant temp sensor shut it down cause it thinks it overheating....fault code 15 says the voltage is too high at the sensor!! |
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Dave the Builder
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 11:42:22 PM » |
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I would try the original "temp gauge switch" you swapped,
sounds like you replaced o good part with a duff un.
coolant temp sensor on stat housing in often the cause of problems,(i carry a spare in my ashtray),what stat have you removed ? the bi metallic stat housing to divert water to rad or an electrical stat ?
you have the engine management stat (with multiplug),then the thermostat to divert water to rad,then the gauge sender(single lucas connection on tit of sender)
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 12:03:56 AM » |
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I got a new temp gauge switch..the 13mm that you put the spade terminal on too....
i removed the normal thermostat....just temporary to keep the coolant constantly flowing...felt it was hot...think the stat may be jammed shut...looked pretty bad when i took it out.
its the 2 pin coolant sensor on the top of the stat housing(19mm) thats the problem i think....there was another 'used' one in the glovebox...and according to Vx TIS 2000 software that is the coolant temperature sensor...not the gauge sensor as i reckon the reason for the other one in the car,someone has changed it thinking it was for the dash gauge
i put the other one into the car and it wouldn't start at all!!
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 12:07:04 AM » |
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Sorry,just read that again and understand what you are saying now.(tiss late)
i would look at coolant temp sensor,and remember the loom could have a loose connection or short as engine movement can cause insulation damage and conductor st reching.
check all engine management multi plugs as it seems strange you have injector fault too
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 12:12:01 AM » |
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The injector fault would certainly explain the slight hesitation on acceleration,although i know what you mean about connections!!
i can get a new coolant temp sensor for £13 +vat,so i will get one just so i know for sure its ok
and a stat,then i know the all 3 are new,and if the fault is still there then its got to be a connector...
one other thing
Carlton CDX alloys will take 205/60 15 tyres wont they?? standard is 195/65 15
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 12:15:51 AM » |
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standard steel wheel is 195/65/15
dippy and cdx alloy wheel is 205/65/15
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2006, 12:21:54 AM » |
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its just ive got some Monza tyres spare (205/60 15) mine has got CDx multi spoke(nut covers and small round centre cap) but its fitted with 195/65! im sure the rims will handle the Monza tyres...it needs 3 new tyres anyway.and the Monza ones are lying about getting in the road!! stick 4 on it and save some cash!!....probably for fuel!!  |
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2006, 12:31:24 AM » |
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Thanks for the help Dave,will let you know how it is!!  |
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 01:17:36 AM » |
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I had 205/60/15's on my CDX rims with no problems.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 08:49:05 AM » |
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I thought they would fit but,i always like to double check!! Cheers Murph |
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2006, 10:03:04 AM » |
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205/60's are fine, I've got 'em on my Senator.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 10:55:11 AM » |
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225/60s go on too!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 11:16:47 AM » |
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225/60s go on too!!!!!!!!
I think that would be a bit close to the rear arches (10mm ) what is the official line on this mot wise ? also smaller diameter tyres would alter the final gearing of the car surely ? i.e putting on 60's instead of 65's ,if you reduce the diameter then you reduce circumference and that means slower Carlton ? might be talking out me a*** ! |
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2006, 11:33:51 AM » |
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Slower top-end but better acceleration.
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monzaiain
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2006, 08:38:01 PM » |
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Car fixed!!!   Got a new coolant temp sensor from the dealer...cheaper than elsewhere would you believe!? £8 + vat fitted it...appeared to be better...then ECU light came on and it went into limp again Checked the codes and only got 81 low voltage at no1 injector...to cut a long story short....it was on then going off and coming back on again...... did this for about an hour or so..........i then looked back at the stat housing and noticed the spade connector for the temp gauge switch was not fully on....pushed it on properly and (apparently) hey presto!! SO FAR!!! but it seems to be ok...at least i know it has a new stat,temp gauge switch and coolant temp sensor!! Put the 205/60's on it too Took it for a blast and it feels ok,still slight hesitation though....i did notice however when i took off the plug from no1 injector that it had a fair bit of movement(the injector itself i mean) it sits at an angle to clear the big hose from the airbox,but it could be moved quite freely from left to right...put a test light on to the plug and got a good earth and power supply,so i presumme the injector itself has the problem and not the wiring from the car?? |
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 09:23:13 PM » |
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standard steel wheel is 195/65/15
dippy and cdx alloy wheel is 205/65/15
I thought that most Carltons except the very early ones & the GSi were 195/65/15 & only the GSi's were 205/65/15??? |
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2006, 07:09:24 AM » |
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standard steel wheel is 195/65/15
dippy and cdx alloy wheel is 205/65/15
that is what it says in the HJB my cdx estate has 195/65/15s slides everywhere!!!lol I thought that most Carltons except the very early ones & the GSi were 195/65/15 & only the GSi's were 205/65/15??? |
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