Finally got the car back home.

[mrogers]

I know its not a Carlton, but its close lol.  It seems pretty ok from first look, not a good as condition as my old carlton.

need to get her on the road now

[Pedro]

Cool looking cars, them thar Senators - slammed and running 19's is the way forward!!

[Tetleysmooth]

Don't look too bad Marcus. Nice dry engine
Not the worst arches I've ever seen.

[carlton_mad]

needs a rear spoiler genuine of course (look nice)

[mrogers]

Cheers for the comments, im going to spend the next few months tidying her up and my wife is now on about using its to replace her car rather than having to sell it.

[Tetleysmooth]

Sensible girl  Don't sell it mate.
I'm using my silver one now. I only sold the Dippy coz my wife couldn't make her mind up about whether she wanted the Senny or not. It was just sitting in my garden. It was too nice for that.
A work colleague wanted the Dippy for his dad, so it was the ideal opportunity to put the Senny on the road.
Glad I did mate, in my opinion-for what it's worth-nothing else I've owned drives like the Senny.

[bstardchild]

Glad I did mate, in my opinion-for what it's worth-nothing else I've owned drives like the Senny.

Not even a Carlton drives as well IMHO - they truely are awesome mile munchers

- Only a Monza drives better but it can cover the distance like a senny can in the same level of comfort 

[Tetleysmooth]

Glad I did mate, in my opinion-for what it's worth-nothing else I've owned drives like the Senny.

Not even a Carlton drives as well IMHO

Brave words BC, on a Carlton forum 

[carlton_mad]

ya gotta keep it man its too tidy to let go!!!!!!!!!!

[bstardchild]

Brave words BC, on a Carlton forum 

Err not really - Just what I've experienced

Carlton's - Mainly the GSi are too hard at the front and the turn is compromised by the lack of bodyroll to assist the front tyres to bite as a result the wash on the corners

Now you can compensate for that by giving it a large bootfull and some opposite lock but it's hardly the quickest way round a corner is it?

Senator's - although softer sprung and have a bit more body roll help the front tyre bite and as a result hold a very tight line in the bends - I've undertaken a lot of GSi's on track days mainly cos I know where they are gonna go when they hit the corner - Wide!!!

Again by giving it a large bootfull and some opposite lock you can get the taill out but it's hardly the quickest way round a corner is it?

Monza's are far more balanced and when the grip runs out on the front it's normall also on the limit on the rear too - result a 4 wheel drift thro the corner balanced on the throttle - back of teh throttle and it tightens it's line floor it and if you are really lucky you might get the arse end out but it takes some doing!!!

[mrogers]

well if the mot isnt too much of a problem, shes deffo staying.  Lovely car and very comfy.

[Tetleysmooth]

Excellent. Hopefully another one saved.

[Johnny A]

Carlton's - Mainly the GSi are too hard at the front and the turn is compromised by the lack of bodyroll to assist the front tyres to bite as a result the wash on the corners

Now you can compensate for that by giving it a large bootfull and some opposite lock but it's hardly the quickest way round a corner is it?

Senator's - although softer sprung and have a bit more body roll help the front tyre bite and as a result hold a very tight line in the bends - I've undertaken a lot of GSi's on track days mainly cos I know where they are gonna go when they hit the corner - Wide!!!

Again by giving it a large bootfull and some opposite lock you can get the taill out but it's hardly the quickest way round a corner is it?

Monza's are far more balanced and when the grip runs out on the front it's normall also on the limit on the rear too - result a 4 wheel drift thro the corner balanced on the throttle - back of teh throttle and it tightens it's line floor it and if you are really lucky you might get the arse end out but it takes some doing!!!

Agreed, but an easy solution is to remove the front ARB on the carlton. What I have done

[carlton_mad]

i may be wrong but if the arb is fitted as standard it needs to be there for the mot!!

[Pedro]

I don't think it does, to be honest.
If that was the case, fitting an aftermarket one might fail aswell.

[Johnny A]

Nope, MOT does not cover any aspect of the ARB (only if where was 'play' in the bushes would it be mentioned/failed on)

Not having one is fine

[Tetleysmooth]

Any progress on the Senny, Marcus?

[mrogers]

Any progress on the Senny, Marcus?

nope, spent last weekend sorting out a burt hose on the Nissan and preparing the Volvo for ebay.  Volvo should be gone in a few days and if i get chance im gonna start on the Senny.

Going to clean the idle valve and assoc piping, check the handbrake and then hopefully chuch her in for and mot.

might take some pics of the underneath to see if anybody on here can spot anything obvious.

Wish the fuse box was easy to replace mines bodged lol.

[Tetleysmooth]

Ah, the good old Senator fuse box. Every one I've had so far has melted somewhere.

[Diplo-Matt]

Im with BC on this one. Although i love the Dip my old fellas 24v is the nicer car to drive. It handles so well. But its more work to mantain and dearer to run and things like the Three ways shockers are getting harder to source. Having never driven a GSi i find the dip's front end a little to soft, but i think they run a softer set-up than the GSI. I dont mind as its not really designed for racing.

[Whippit]

Agreed, but an easy solution is to remove the front ARB on the carlton. What I have done

Is this really OK? my drop links are shot on the 2.0 and I was thinking I might run it without for a while if they are not needed.....Thoughts anyone, (Bloody rattle is driving me mad).
Whippit

[Whippit]

Agreed, but an easy solution is to remove the front ARB on the carlton. What I have done

Is this really OK? my drop links are shot on the 2.0 and I was thinking I might run it without for a while if they are not needed.....Thoughts anyone, (Bloody rattle is driving me mad).
Whippit

[Johnny A]

It will be OK, but if your car isn't lowered it will roll a fair bit. I really only recommend a total ARB removal with a minimum of lowering springs.

The ideal situation for removal of the front ARB is when you have lowered the car and are running adjustable shocks too. Once the ARB is removed you can dial the shocks in and get some awesome grip levels

[Pedro]

Pretty sure that if ARB is fitted, it and it's associated gubbibs have to be in roadworthy condition, but if it's not fitted, then you obviously don't need the drop links, therefore it can't fail!

But as I'm not an MOT tester, don't just take my word for it!





Getting a bit uncomfortable, sitting in this fence!!!


Having said all that, mine handles superbly - lowered 35mm, 18x8.5 with 235/35 tyres, 15mm wheel spacers and ARB doing it's stuff!

[Johnny A]

Saying that pete you don't know what it would be like without the ARB!

If there is no ARB on the car it would pass fine. Don't beleive me? HMS is going for its MOT next week with it's front removed.