Window motor/regulator

[Tetleysmooth]

How do you remove/refit the electric window motor and regulator in the front door/s?

[customcarlton]

drill out the rivits remove the wondow the remove then refit the motor and pot rivit back in place

[Tetleysmooth]

Is it really as easy as that?
Can I substitute rivets for small bolts?

[customcarlton]

yes m8 you can use bolts if you like should be 3 rivits if memory serves me rightly

[Scatmancraig]

If you need a window motor/regulator unit i have plenty spare!!!!  They really are that simple to replace, get the plastic guides in the 2 runners, unbolting the 3rd runner always makes this easier (2 10mm bolts), line up the rivet holes & rivet away!!  You could use bolts but could be a bit fiddly, pop rivets are 10 times easier!!!

[discojay]

Pop rivets are definatly the best way of refiting the motor, i tried using small bolts which were really fidly to get in and tighten whilst trying to hold the motor in place and also i used bolts without locking nuts so about a week after puting mine back in after replacing a smashed window the bolts came undone and i had to strip the door card off again to fix it!!

but yeah it is very easy to do!!

[Tetleysmooth]

Thanks lads, feel a bit more confident now.
As far as I can see, the regulator is like a 'x' shape, how do you get this out of the door, the gaps in the door look very small.

[Scatmancraig]

Dead easy!  Remove door cards 1st (obviously!) then the following....

1) Drill out the rivets (think there are 4 or 5 on the front windows).
2) Unplug the wiring!
3) Undo the 2 10mm bolts holding the lower slider in place & remove slider (not essential but it helps).
4) Slide the 2 plastic locators out of the sliders attached to the bottom of the glass.
5) Withdraw the motor/regulator & mechanism through the large hole in the door skin, take care not to bend the door handle rod!!!

Can't remember anything else, anyone else care to add???

[chrismec]

No I think thats about right

[Tetleysmooth]

Thanks again lads.

[HMK]

There is one VERY important thing to add............

Don't forget to clean & re-grease all three runners as it is the grease drying up that loads up the system & often causes the units to fail in the first place.

Also, note the position of the fixed, but adjustable lower runner.

As for using nuts & bolts, I don't think you can get to the rear of all four of the fixing points unless you've got very small hands. Use a good quality pop rivet - 0n the car I bought recently, someone had taken the mechanism off before on the drivers side & used very weak aluminium rivets & they had all broken off except one.

While the door card is off, I always make this a good opportunity do do some 'in-door maintenance' to the various mechanisms. You can also treat the inside bottom area of the door with some anti-rust waxy stuff.........but be warned, it will make the inside of the car smell of the 'goo' for a week or so after.

[chrismec]

Mmmm good advise m8y

[flash911]

had a 2ndhand door fitted to my car, they refitted orig window with diff motor i was given(motor worked) but now it wont wind up or down will work out of car but not fitted any ideas? plz

[Murph]

Try adjusting the mechanism by slacking the two 10mm bolts at the rear end of the door, and re-grease all the moving parts.

If that doesnt work change the motor.

[flash911]

cheers murph , will try it today , mind u might leave it til i get to billing let the experts have a look  just had a look at the old door and there seems to b a little bracket on the front edge where the window would go up and  ???down any ideas lol

[Murph]

If you are referring to the two 10mm bolts around the speaker location its the front window runner mate.

[flash911]

no they are further up the door, no where near the motor or mechanism 
apparently there is a flat spot on the motor, if u tap itwith hammer  and press butten at the same time it goes up and down , needs persuading lol