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« on: November 20, 2011, 08:55:43 PM » |
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As some of you may or may not know, I have obtained a set of alloys off a Senator B the, coss spoke/lattice type. Call them what you will.
I have never attempted to refurbish alloys before. The Diplomat type would be easier, but I'm not doing them. I would like to have them professionally done, but I've had quotes at and over the £300 mark, for a set of four including the centre caps.
The tyres will be removed from the rims, prior to any work getting started on them.
I suppose the easiest way would be a quick rub down and then hammerite, but I want them to look tidy ish, not a balls up.
In between the cross spokes is going to be a barrel of fun, in the paint removing stage.
So, has anybody got any tips or advice for a novice wheel refurbisher?
Choice of colour is anthracite, as with the bodywork in spectral blue, they should look good. Providing I do a decent job, that is!
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 09:06:47 PM » |
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Prep is everything, get them sandblasted cheap. Then use chemical metal to fill in any kerb marks, sand flat. Prime, sand that flat and then paint. Will be mint!
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kevinfourlegs
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 09:15:34 PM » |
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Kerb marking isn't too bad. Yes, there are scrapes, but no chunks gouged out, so nothing serious.
The flatting between the spokes is going to be fun. Not!!
Is it worth applying clear lacquer or not?
The wheels will be used from the end of February, beginning of March until November, weather permitting. The Diplomat rims, on the car at present, will be used for winter/salty roads.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 09:16:35 PM » |
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Depends on the paint as to lacquer, but it does make the paint look more 3D if you apply a load.
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kevinfourlegs
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 09:26:35 PM » |
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I was thinking more along the lines of protecting the paint from stone chips, rather than 3D. But the 3D would be a bonus.
To be honest, I haven't looked at anthracite paint yet. I assume its available in a rattle can? You can probably tell that I'm a novice at this painting game.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 09:27:37 PM » |
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Yeah its a common colour, Ford graphite grey is pretty much there. I used BMW sparkling graphite for my Lotus.
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kevinfourlegs
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 09:40:29 PM » |
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I've seen some BBS style rims in anthracite and I thought then, yes, that's the colour I want.
I was thinking about painting the brake calipers and the brake disc bells yellow, so the wheels should go well in anthracite.
Am I correct in thinking that any motor factor will stock chemical metal?
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 09:41:05 PM » |
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Should do yeah, if not Halfrauds certainly do
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2011, 09:41:25 PM » |
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Powder coating is the way forward for wheels!  |
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2011, 09:42:06 PM » |
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Trouble is he wants the cheapness Pedders, which is why I suggested a sandblast to get rid of everything then start a fresh
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kevinfourlegs
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2011, 09:44:32 PM » |
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If I had money available I would have them refurbished professionally.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2011, 10:27:16 PM » |
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Thank you for the input, its much appreciated.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2011, 10:35:53 PM » |
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You might become an expert. I think a few of us must have the same wheels !.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 11:13:54 PM » |
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Depends how far you want to go, for a DIY job a quick rub down with wet and dry followed by primer, coat and lacquer will do, anthracite will hide alot of imperfections
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 07:30:03 AM » |
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The paint is better on some, although the four need to be done. I would like the finish to last longer than a couple of months.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 07:54:38 PM » |
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kevinfourlegs
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 08:24:49 PM » |
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Tidy looking job on yours Day. The Diamond rims are a lot easier than the Senator cross spoke rims. I should really have picked an easier rim to do. The paint has lifted on some worse than others, in between the spokes and on the inside of the rim.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 09:04:06 PM » |
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use nitromors to get the paint off sand the rough bits then spray them should be a lot easier that way!!
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 09:27:15 PM » |
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Nitromoors or sandblasting? I forgot about nitromoors. Good stuff that is. Either way the tyres and weights will be off the rims.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 10:56:41 PM » |
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nitromors or sandblasting would depend on how much corrosion youve got.
If I was going to do a set of those, i would be tempted to get them blasted (with as fine media as possible, to keep the surfaces fairly smooth) and paint in one hit, go etch primer, wet on wet surfacer to smooth it out, then base and clear.
Would definately cut down the sanding required
Also dont forget that the alloy is quite soft, so a lot of kerb marks can be sanded out, you'd want some kind of power sander for that though
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 11:12:22 PM » |
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Nitromors contains Methylene Chloride which will affect rubber so it may be best to remove the tyres and wear gloves since it is a low level neurotoxin which is absorbed into the skin !
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2011, 09:16:33 AM » |
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Tyres will be removed prior to refurbishing. I have suitable gloves for using nitromoors.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2011, 09:47:41 AM » |
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I used nitromoors on the ones I did and as you saw they came out OK.
However in your case I think media blasting would be better (if you can) due to the wheel pattern.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2011, 10:03:23 AM » |
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That's my concern, getting rid of the flaky paint in between the cross spokes. I'm at me mates later, so I'll have a word with him about having the wheels blasted. He works in Cardiff, oops, the C word, so he may know of somewhere local to him. I've also two more rims, so that's six rims I got.
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2012, 07:52:24 PM » |
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I have been a busy bee, sanding the rims down as and when. I have to do them outside as I don't have anywhere undercover to do them. Its taken a while, but when the weather is fine, a sanding I go.
Suppose I should take some piccies.
When I come to painting them, I am going to use the high build primer. There are no gouges so I think one coat of the high build primer should fill any imperfections, yes? Or do I go for two coats of high build primer, to be on the safe side?
When the primer is dry, how many coats of colour are recommended?
When the colour coat is dry, how many coats of clear lacquer are recommended?
Both sides of the rims are getting done. I couldn't really do the outside and leave the reverse side all tatty.
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