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Johnny A
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« on: October 29, 2011, 03:40:11 PM »

I had my 24v Carlton on the rollers today,

Results:
214.9bhp/224.8ft-lbs of torque
Factory bhp is 204bhp

I am very happy with both the output and the noise from my home brew exhaust (which is the only modification btw), there was silly amounts of smoke which was a combo of overfuelling and totally shot ebay special edition stem seals - which are fixable.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 03:50:13 PM »

Very impressive,
The V.SO. Seals won't make much diffrence to the figures i'd have thought,
but what do you expect when the fueling issue is sorted ?
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Johnny A
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 03:54:08 PM »

No idea Dave, by design the excess fuel is taking up room in the chamber that should be for air so there is certainly more power to be had.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 07:50:33 PM »

not to shabby!!!! Grin
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 08:46:11 AM »

Great result! Didn't realise an exhaust alone would give those numbers!
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Johnny A
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2011, 06:36:09 PM »

I doubt the exhaust has much to do with it, its got no extra bore than the factory system - its just smoother.

I suspect the extra bhp is coming from the lack of cats
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Cosmo D
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 07:43:54 AM »

Nice! I want to remove my cats Smiley It probably wan't pass MOT if I remove them though...

EDIT: Just saw some pics from the dyno day at Janspeed over at MigWeb. There's a few pics of you there Cheesy Why does it say that it made 179 bhp there?

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/car-talk/484179-south-central-rolling-road-day-janspeed-pic-thread.html

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 11:21:22 PM »

that'll be an @the wheels figure!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 06:37:52 AM »

Well, that's what I had in mind. I would expect more though  Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 12:42:09 PM »

Well, that's what I had in mind. I would expect more though  Undecided

Don't know why, I think that's a respectable @ the wheels figure when you consider all the friction of g/box, propshaft, diff, hubs etc.
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Johnny A
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 02:29:53 PM »

the transmisson losses on a rwd can be anything from 30 to 60bhp!
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 09:50:17 AM »

the transmisson losses on a rwd can be anything from 30 to 60bhp!

A bit of shame, didn't realise the loss was that huge on RWD cars. 4WD though, is a different story  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 10:57:23 AM »

The article in the link below reckons that front wheel drive loses about 15% of the engine BHP as transmission losses; rear wheel drive is 17% and 4 wheel drive 22%.

http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/POWER3.htm

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Johnny A
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 11:49:57 AM »

This why 4wd sucks, the losses are huge.
Rwd is twenty million times* more fun and cool than fwd and yet is only a tiny 2% extra loss in power!

*official figure
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2011, 12:08:35 PM »

Good stuff!  What does it weigh roughly now?

2% is a very small price to pay for all the other benefits of RWD

http://www.rearwheeldrive.org/rwd/rwdbenefits.htm
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Johnny A
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2011, 12:24:11 PM »

the car weighs 1430kgs
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1993 Carlton Estate 2.0 16v Turbo camo edition
1989 Lotus Carlton replica, seeing a 2JZ-GTE during the summer
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