rust killing

[merlin]

has any body had good results with any rust converters ? any body tried fertan or trustan ? was thinking take off as much as can with grinder paint with converter ,overcoat with zinc primer followed by smooth rite and schultz

[nightmare]

If your'e going to go to all that trouble you might as well replace with good steel.

 i.e. Get the welder out.

If your'e going to do a job do it right do it ONCE

[man of kent]

As long as the rust is not through a panel, oil, oil & oil. If its in an area of wash like the wheelarch, Supertrol 001. It also creaps into stone chips.

[Dave the Builder]

New steel will rust again...
P38 won't ! 

[merlin]

remember a ford cortina 2000e i bought there was 2 levels of repair/welding ,tinfoil with silicone around edge covered with underseal and for structual areas roof flashing with underseal .after finding that i gone out n bought gas kit and taught self to weld lol

[Pedro]

You can't 'kill' or 'convert' rust.

You can only remove it.
Unless it's simple surface corrosion, the only way to get rid of rust is to chop it out and replace with fresh steel.

There is no way on this planet that anyone will convince me otherwise.

[melinx]

Removing rust : - I have in the past used Turtle Wax Rust Eater Gel; I believe that it contains Phosphoric acid.

Being a gel it is useful on vertical surfaces and it slowly dissolves the black 'rust' flecks in the pits that remain after sanding off the majority of the surface rust.

It needs some patience you have to keep applying it and washing it off until there is no sign of the black flecks and you are just left with a grey pitted, clean metal surface.

The process may need a couple of days and several washing off/re-applications.

It will discolour any paintwork that the gel runs onto

[stemo]

You can't 'kill' or 'convert' rust.

You can only remove it.
Unless it's simple surface corrosion, the only way to get rid of rust is to chop it out and replace with fresh steel.

There is no way on this planet that anyone will convince me otherwise.

Exactly, then good prevention.

Or you could just fill it with newspaper and fibreglass over it.*


*Not a serious comment

[The Duke]

Bilt Hamber's Deox -c gel always seems to get the thumbs up in classic car mags.

[carlton_mad]

You can't 'kill' or 'convert' rust.

You can only remove it.
Unless it's simple surface corrosion, the only way to get rid of rust is to chop it out and replace with fresh steel.

There is no way on this planet that anyone will convince me otherwise.

Exactly, then good prevention.

Or you could just fill it with newspaper and fibreglass over it.*


*Not a serious comment

certain red GSI's seem to be favorites for that treatment!!

[stemo]

Oh yes!  Perfect for carrying children in too...

[chris]

Bilt Hamber's Deox -c gel always seems to get the thumbs up in classic car mags.

Ive used it quite a lot.
It sounds like the turtle wax stuff described above is similar.

The Deox does a brilliant job but I dont normally bother to tell anyone about it any more because the people I have told then come back saying its no good.
The truth is its brilliant but incredibly slow, you need days to do it, but if you have a panel that has no perforations and dont want to cut out and weld then its a great way to save the panel and be sure the rust isnt slowly coming back under the new paint.