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« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2009, 08:04:12 PM » |
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When you go for the wet and dry,just keep away from the edges and you'll be fine.Mind loads of soapy water,same when your using the buff keep away from the edges. dont know if I've mentioned it,but keep away from the edges.  |
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« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2009, 09:48:01 PM » |
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Yeah got that clear just  I was also wondering what is the best way to flat the runs out as there could be a danger of going through the paint when trying to rub it out? Any special tricks? |
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« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2009, 10:57:48 PM » |
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I just read the whhole thread for the first time, its good to see someone having a go at a job that size at home, well done.
I also do a bit of home painting, never a full car though yet.
As you are finding the beauty of non metallic is theres no need to laquer and you can put it on badly if you are just learning and theres no harm done cos careful flatting and polishing will have it looking great.
To get runs off I bought a posh rubber sanding block from the local paintshop, used very carefully with wet and dry (loads of water) you can get them off, you might need to play round with what grades you use though to get the thick off and end up with the 1500 same as the rest.
If you just use your fingers you wont do it without making holes nearby.
Tip for using the compounding machine near edges is of course go lightly but also tilt the mop forwards a touch and go in the direction where it goes over the panel and off the edge, if you do the opposite and its going up over the edge you will have bare metal in a moment.
I got through to the primer a couple of times whaen I first tried it.
You can always put more paint on though so dont worry if it happens.
Keep up the good work
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« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2009, 11:38:25 PM » |
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Thanks for the advise Chris. I'll have to get one of those rubber blocks. I was wondering if one of these might be any use http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-53-7518-47526-proxxon-28594-pensander-ps-12-volt.asp?iCategoryID1=7518 so you could just sand the high spot alone. Just a thought. As for the rest of it I am wondering about a couple of things: Soap, is washing up liquid ok or is the salt a problem? How much compound to use and how much water to spray when polishing? Am looking forward to getting rid of all the crap bits as they really ruin it. |
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« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2009, 10:20:13 PM » |
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Thanks for the advise Chris. I'll have to get one of those rubber blocks. I was wondering if one of these might be any use so you could just sand the high spot alone. Just a thought.
prob is u can leave a low spot by doing that or its easy to go through concentrating the sanding in that spot, the block will best as it will only take it as far down as it needs to  Paid a couple of quid for a rubber block from halfords seems to be doin the job well an grips the paper well |
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« Reply #80 on: September 16, 2009, 10:49:17 PM » |
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What he said above
On the other questions, I never bother with soap, and I agree that salt may be a concern as washing up liquid has it in.
For how much compound and water, itll become clear when you try and you will find a balance, the only important thing is not to let it run dry.
You will probably get wet doing this job and too much water just means you get wet sooner, doesnt really matter.
You can see when more compound is needed as you simply cant see it on the surface.
Just have a go and it will become clear when it needs more of what.
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« Reply #81 on: September 17, 2009, 12:56:34 PM » |
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« Reply #82 on: September 17, 2009, 02:02:59 PM » |
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I'm on with it today... Mopping at 1500rpm, is that about right?
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« Reply #83 on: September 17, 2009, 10:59:45 PM » |
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What he said above
he's got a name Yeah say his name bitch! Coat on and running..... |
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« Reply #84 on: September 18, 2009, 11:18:43 AM » |
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Ah right...Yes I had one of them, bloody useful too.
The Wide Angle Mirrors for Carltons (as show on the RH side of that brochure) are usually rare because most buyers wouldn't stump up the extra cash to have one fitted to their vehicles Einarrson.... I decided to change my passenger side mirror assembly, because ever since I had the car it was obviously a subtly different colour to the rest of the car in full sunlight. I was surprised to find that the replacement was a diecast internal body, whereas the one I removed was plastic ! Once it was on I realised that there was another difference, it was subtly convex, thus giving a much better view; the colour matches the rest of the car in all light conditions also  The drivers side has the split mirror ! The car is a late 92 2.6 Diplomat |
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« Reply #85 on: September 18, 2009, 06:44:49 PM » |
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A bit of progress today. After mopping with a Gmop and G3.  |
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« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2009, 07:45:43 PM » |
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Ooh - shiney!!!  Nice work, Mr. Einarrson. |
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« Reply #87 on: September 18, 2009, 08:38:42 PM » |
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Looking very nice - well done. Can't wait to see the whole car!
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« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2009, 07:11:05 PM » |
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Got a bit more today, all the passenger side flatted and mopped, so there's just the drivers side to do.
The runs are coming out a treat with the foam block and 1200 paper, then mopping with the medium Gmop and compound. I'm mopping about 1200 - 1500 rpm but it's quite hard to tell when you have polished it all you can with the medium and if you need to move to the finer mop.
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« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2009, 10:59:37 PM » |
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What he said above
he's got a name Yeah say his name bitch! Coat on and running..... Im not gonna say it now just cos hes huffed  Only kidding No offence meant Blippi |
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« Reply #90 on: September 19, 2009, 11:11:47 PM » |
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If the whole car is looking like that bonnet itll be great.
For a low budget, outdoor, first attempt paint job you are doing excellent work.
Off on a tangent here, regarding the comments about paint being unobtainable now, its not 2K that you cant buy its cellulose.
Its sale is restricted, you are allowed to buy it only if its not for a car or if its the correct paint for a historical car (or summat like that) The paint man told me if I want to tell him Im painting a piano Flame red he can sell me it, but not for a car.
Although 2k can kill you quickly the government doesnt care to stop you doing that, the cellulose was the safer option for home use but it contains VOCs and they are bad for the environment so bo**ocks to your safety.
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« Reply #91 on: September 19, 2009, 11:56:07 PM » |
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No offence meant Blippi
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« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2009, 08:13:43 PM » |
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Thanks for the kind comments Chris. Typical regulations more concerned with environmental damage, that will always recover, than human health. Anyway, all the compounding is pretty much done - not done the bumpers yet though. I only went through on 3 of the door handles, a couple of bit's of trim and a wing mirror. I think I will paint these in situ. I nearly went through on the roof by the sunroof which is strange as there should be loads of paint on there. I'm now wondering about the final polishes. What polish/compound should I use? I'm assuming I can use the mopping machine with the lambs wool head or something? Pics to follow but not crappy ones on the driveway with my basic camera. I have a location and time of day in mind |
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« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2009, 11:33:08 PM » |
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Bugger just read this thread I have a mopping machine and a load of compound you could have borrowed.
Do you fancy doing another? I need to spray my estate I can do all the donkey work but my compressor has bust.
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« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2009, 11:49:53 PM » |
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No worries mate, it's good to have one and only cost me £40. Just checked your profile, I thought you were in Leeds when I saw some of your pics on the avenue in Tempsy. Sorry mate, I am quite happy to have the respray behind me now and it would be so much more stressful doing it on someone else's motor. If you're gonna do all the prep you might as well paint yourself too. I'd lend you the compressor I used but it's not mine. Good to have another Carlton owner and forum member in Yorkshire. |
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« Reply #95 on: September 24, 2009, 07:51:21 AM » |
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I'm now wondering about the final polishes. What polish/compound should I use? I'm assuming I can use the mopping machine with the lambs wool head or something?
As far as I remember, you shouldn't polish it for a week or two. This alows the paint to harden or cure (depends on type of pait I guess). You certainly can use a lamb's wool head (and very light pressure) on your polisher - but as to type of polish, lots to choose from. I've stuck with Mequiars, but some prefer Auto Glym, some will say Mother's (which is the best seller in the USA) and others......take yer pick! |
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« Reply #96 on: September 24, 2009, 06:05:59 PM » |
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I got the COSHH sheets for PPG Deltron in the early 90s (a 2 pack polyurethane paint) and the reason for the 'hyper-caution' associated with such materials is that a small but significant proportion of the population are hypersensitive to the isocyanate component. Obviously, most people would not want to be exposed to the material for 8 hours per day as part of a job and nor would it be reasonable to expose them to such risk (or legal, according the the H&SaW act of 1973) without adequate protection.
Dulux house paint and polyurethane foam in sofas etc also contain isocyanate but as it is not atomised then exposure through ingestion is minimal. What I would say is that if you have asthma or a family history of allergies, you are very likely to be in that 'small minority'
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« Reply #97 on: September 24, 2009, 07:50:21 PM » |
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Two weeks after mopping or painting? It's been painted nearly 4 weeks now.
Interesting to know the intricacies of the toxicity of the materials. It made me a bit wheezy so I just avoided it a bit more. Apparently the 2K can cause industrial Asthma and is very irritating to the skin and eyes.
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« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2009, 10:52:49 PM » |
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Was that you earlier when I pulled out of my house at Whitkirk?
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