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clusoe
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« on: May 25, 2009, 04:37:30 PM »

My 88/89 3.0 GSi Carlton has had a problem with the drivers drop light. When I try to open or close it, it moves a little way and then stops. If I release the switch and press again it does the same thing. The only way to get full travel is by continualy pressing and releasing the switch.
Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 04:59:07 PM »

Sorry I cant help,but my senator has the same problem.Someone will be alone soon with the answer.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 05:54:38 PM »

Not sure what a "drivers drop light" is, but if you are referring to the drivers window, it may be the "jam sensor" kicking in. These window motors have some kind of sensor,which, if it detects resistance, i.e. fingers caught in the window when going up, the motor stops and reverses the window a bit - so as to allow the jammed fingers to be removed. If this is what you are experiencing, I'd suggest cleaning the runners of the window mechanism getting rid of old dirty dried up grease and regreasing with new grease as old dry grease adds to resistance therefore blagging the anti-jam feature to kick in.

It seemed to do the trick for me (I used to multi-press my window switch to get my drivers window up before i fixed my blue 1990 Carlton RIP).

It must be the drivers one which goes first through as its used a lot therefore picking up more dirt in its greased areas.

Also ensure window runners are correctly aligned if grease doesnt do the trick.

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Bear in mind though that the jam sensors sometimes dont work - as a colleague of mine unwittingly found out when demonstrating the mechanism to me in the late 80s. His fingers were quite sore for a few days after. Smiley

If you need to test, try something squishy-ish but not living - perhaps a teddy bear or something.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 10:23:27 AM »

If you need to test, try something squishy-ish but not living - perhaps a teddy bear or something.
No, no, no, not Big Ted...!!!

I use a block of wood to test them myself - "Not tested on stuffed animals"
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 06:39:26 PM »

Block of wood good. Packet of fags bad. Had to go back to the shop for another packet  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 08:47:49 PM »

Similar problem to mine - turned out it was the relay unit on the motor.

thankfully it can be removed from the front doors without having to remove the window lifter mechanism.  It's the bit that the loom plugs into, there are four torx screws holding it in and once these are removed it will slide out.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 06:32:11 PM »

There's a control box on every powered window which turns the motor off, any of the relays tripping out inside would stop it.  Have you tried pressing the override button,  the middle one to the right of the handbrake?.

take a look at this..

http://totalcarlton.com/forums/index.php/topic,2139.msg22119/topicseen.html#msg22119
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 09:33:26 AM »

There's a control box on every powered window which turns the motor off, any of the relays tripping out inside would stop it.  Have you tried pressing the override button,  the middle one to the right of the handbrake?.

take a look at this..

http://totalcarlton.com/forums/index.php/topic,2139.msg22119/topicseen.html#msg22119

just wanna drop in. i see on link from this forum going to the other page and gives me an idea about the problem that i am having in my car. now i already fixed the side window deflector issue. thanks here.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 10:41:18 PM »

My silver car has the same fault on a back window, I dont know about the others mentioned but in my case Im sure its not friction causing it and greasing wont help.
It moves freely enough for exactly the same amount in the steps as described, never any difference in distance, perfectly regular steps and never sounds like its struggling.
I am familiar with the problem of friction making it struggle and causing random stopping but its definitely not that, definitely an electrical problem.

I havent tried to fix it yet.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 12:23:54 AM »

Have you tried holding the "up" button for 10-15 seconds once it's fully closed to reset the motor?
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 11:49:25 AM »

Have you tried holding the "up" button for 10-15 seconds once it's fully closed to reset the motor?

id go for this.


Any time you disconnect the battery it resets the lil control box.    Putting it back to one touch means holding the switch for 10 seconds or so.


This might just be highlighting and underlying problem.   Like a fractured wire in the door? Or door jamn. Which every time it comes appart stops supplying the power to the control box.  Meaning a reset is required often....
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